From Christianity Today: The Problem with Prophets by Paul Marshall. This is a must-read for anyone interested in Evangelicals and politics. (HT: Denis Hancock)

Evangelicals apparently have so much political clout that they are poised to install a theocracy, according to some commentators. Such critics don't notice there is little distinctively evangelical about the evangelical approach to politics. The evangelical emphases—on conversion, the Cross, the Bible, and activism—do not themselves amount to a full, independent theological system. Nor do they take us far in understanding politics, which requires at least some grasp of history, government, law, justice, freedom, rights, mercy, violence, and war. Thoughtful evangelicals trying to understand politics often draw on the wider resources of Calvinist, Anabaptist, Anglican, Lutheran, or Catholic teaching.

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When arguing their viewpoint on topics like economics or the nature of the family, evangelicals tend to move quickly from the biblical text to contemporary political prescriptions. They hardly address the entirety of the biblical story, and often ignore 2,000 years of Christian reflection on moral and political issues.

Well said! The historical ignorance and superficial examination of Scripture by all stripes of Evangelicals drive me crazy.

Take, for example, how some move from debt forgiveness—required in Israel's sabbatical and Jubilee years—to current programs for forgiving Third World debt. I sympathize with the cause of debt forgiveness, but it is a stretch to argue this from the Bible. Israel's Jubilee was about more than redistributing wealth. God ordained it as the response of a covenanted community, reordering its internal affairs in an explicitly liturgical process. That process began on the Day of Atonement, when Israel commemorated God's forgiveness of its own debts. The Jewish people were to totally depend on God as they abstained from planting crops for two years.

The Jubilee certainly has implications for current debt policies. It implies that debtors do not have an absolute obligation to repay. But it is no blueprint for modern policies to forgive Third World debt if, for example, such forgiveness alleviated fiscal problems and thus strengthened thugs like Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe.

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Consider eschatological speculation that tries to match biblical texts with current events, such as attacks on Israel or wars in Iraq, which fortuitously contains ancient Babylon. Prophetic proponents outline the latest eschatological scenario and sometimes lend their support to U.S. or Israeli policies, believing such policies might fulfill prophecy. Even apart from problematic interpretation, however, this approach gives no guide to action. For example, the fact that Isaiah says God delivered Israel into the Babylonians' hands (Is. 47:6) would give no reason to support the Mesopotamians as they enslaved Israel or destroyed the temple. Predictions about the future provide no guidance, political or otherwise, on what God calls us to do today.

A more pervasive—and perhaps pernicious—pattern makes a prophet the key political actor. This view's advocates implicitly claim the prophet's mantle for themselves. In his widely noted God's Politics, Jim Wallis writes, "The place to begin to understand the politics of God is with the Prophets." Wallis does not bother to justify this unusual contention. The Bible itself does not begin with the Prophets, but with Genesis, as does most Christian reflection on politics throughout history. Nor does Wallis relate the Prophets to the Torah. They challenged rulers on the basis of God's law, not on their own feelings of injustice.

The prophet's vital role cannot substitute for understanding the actual burdens of legal and political responsibility. If we take the Prophets as our political model, then we stress this critical outsider's role. Renowned sociologist Max Weber suggested the Prophets might well be understood as forerunners of a free press. But journalism is no substitute for government. Washington's leaders regard such modern-day prophets as betraying their limited political experience when they complain from a distance about what everyone else is doing wrong and offer no realistic alternative policies.

I especially liked this observation.

These "prophets" disregard the real, day-to-day problems faced by actual politicians. They present utopian societies to achieve, rather than guidance for governing the varied and brawling people politicians govern. It's as if parents received advice on rearing their children by hearing someone describe an ideal child. They might respond, "I know what kids are supposed to be, but that tells me nothing. What I need is advice on what, today, I should do with the little monsters I have."

This was another interesting observation …

Historically, Anabaptist theology has portrayed the state as "Caesar," a realm separate from Christ and inextricably intertwined with the threat of force. Hence, Anabaptists have avoided the government when possible and addressed it prophetically from the fringes. But left-wing politicians, while suspicious of military and police power, frequently call for an expansive government to redistribute income, reform welfare, and provide medical care, among many other social causes. Thus the realm of coercion, "Caesar," is urged to take over ever-larger swaths of society.

It has been my experience that too many on the Evangelical Left are dominated by a schizophrenic position that says the Church needs to be separate from the state and distance themselves from supporting military actions of the state (evoking Anabaptist and people like Yoder and Hauerwas). Yet their solution to almost every economic and social problem is increased government involvement through the power of the government to tax people. Either we are fully engaged as Christians with the state's operations or separate from the state. Pick one, please.

With time, evangelicals will grow wiser about the political arena just as parents do—through lived, practical experience. That experience will deliver a dose of reality about what politics can and cannot accomplish. Political action will not deliver utopia, conquer sin, or change human nature. But it can make a difference between rampant crime and safe neighborhoods, between hungry families and economic security, between victory and defeat in war. And only those who have never been mugged, never been hungry, or never been at war will think these differences trivial.


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16 responses to “The Problem with Prophets”

  1. Michael, Good stuff. Thanks.
    I’ve never seen such a stark alternative: “Either we are fully engaged as Christians with the operations of the state or we separate from the state. Pick one please.”
    I wonder if in a subversive way we can influence politics and the government (I mean those who take a more anabaptist position). That without selling ourselves into the political system, we still can live and speak as those pointing to the light that is in Jesus, of the kingdom of God. Something like that. Subversive by our public words and lives, not secluded, but engaged, but in a way like Jesus was engaged. Did Jesus join the Essenes, or zealots, Pharisees or Saducees, or something else? Of course not.

  2. Good comments Ted. Thanks.
    Let me elaborate. I don’t won’t to unfairly generalize. I have known people of a conservative Anabaptist perspective. One gentlemen I met and got to know when I was in grad school was a Mennonite WWII conscientious objector. I disagree with the premises of Anabaptist theology. I don’t think government and society can be so neatly divided as the theology suggests. Nevertheless I have a profound respect for many Anabaptists I have met and their witness.
    Yet just as these Anabaptist would not participate in the military functions of the state, neither would they see it as their role to tell the government one way or the other how it ought to help the poor and how much money it should collect. They would instead seek to be a counter-cultural prophetic witness.
    What some on the Left do now is chastise Christians for bringing their religious values in to the public square. (And I share some their frustration at some of the values that are brought into the public square in the name Christianity but not the legitimacy of bringing their religious values into the public square.) Christians are supposed to be a counter-cultural witness and not become entangled in matters of the state. But then on other issues they cozy up to politicians, start PACs, partner with political groups, seek organize and sway votes, as they seek to advance a political agenda. They are no longer prophets but political partisans.
    It strikes me that what is going on is not prophetic witness but “proof texting” positions with one theological perspective in one place and another perspective in another place. What that says to me is that there is a predefined political agenda in search of theological justifications, not a political stance that has emerged from a consistent theological framework.
    My stark choice was meant to say “Either it is okay to enter the public square with our religious values or it isn’t. But don’t be changing the rules back and forth from issue to issue.”
    It is late I have no idea if I am making sense here. Thanks again for chiming in!

  3. I think it’s a standard set of criticisms of political idealism. Wallis is a tempered brand of 60s idealism that he and Sojourners have managed to keep kindled longer than elsewhere due to their shared counter-cultural faith commitment.
    Wallis argues we need to change the direction of the wind politically, but didn’t get into how to do that in his best-selling book. One can see more from his actions since then.
    My big problem with him is that his approach is dyed-in-the-wool blue-state American culture and doesn’t deal very constructively with the nuances of the cultural wars that underly the recent failures of our democracy.
    As for inconsistency, well, theological systems do get inconsistent and consistency is not the same thing as validity.
    I think there’s a need for a bit more grace or a Generous Orthopraxy for Christian Political Involvement.
    I don’t expect for there to be a “biblically balanced” agenda.
    I also don’t expect everyone who interacts with Yoder to embrace his Anabaptist dualism or to make the public/private secular/sacred divisions in the same way.
    I wasn’t terribly happy with debt-cancellation, but in the end I supported it because it was the main reform going on and seemed to me to be more likely to do more good than harm overall.
    For me, the key theological doctrine wrt Christian Political involvement needs to be fallibilism.
    dlw

  4. I’d think it worth mentioning at the onset a bit more info about the author. It seems significant that he works for Freedom House‘s center for religious freedom, as they may account for some of his less irenic statements made towards the evangelical left.
    dlw

  5. Whatever one can say about Anabaptist theology, one has to concede that they DO put their bodies on the line.
    Their peace testimony has been consistent all the way to prison or worse. While they speak “truth to power” on a sometimes irritatingly frequent basis, they also are with their sleeves rolled up doing the dirty work.

  6. Thanks for these observations dlw and I particularly liked your fallibilism link. A new term for my lexicon.
    You wrote “I don’t expect for there to be a “biblically balanced” agenda.” I agree that in a fallen world no one has perfect perspective. My point in the post (which I don’t think I have articulated well) is not so much about agenda’s but rather a philosophy or theology of how faith should interact with politics. The Reformed tradition has usually endorsed faith values affecting political debate in the public square and Christians being fully engaged in the political process and institutions. The Anabaptists have eschewed government entanglements and sought to be a separate prophetic witness. These are perspectives that have been lived out with substantial consistency by their adherents. I lean to the Reformed perspective but that is not my central issue.
    Part of what may be driving my reaction is my experience dealing with social witness policy in a mainline denomination like the PCUSA. The Anabaptists I have known reject the use of coercive power to accomplish just ends. Therefore, military service is verboten. Many in mainline leadership are pacifists or sanction military use in such restricted cases they are effectively pacifist. The arguments made are frequently against use of coercive force and read like they came from an Anabaptist manual. Yet when it comes to income inequality or some other economic issue, they have no qualms at all about using the coercive power of the state to accomplish their ends.
    This may not be the best example, but it gets at the philosophy of the relationship between church and state. Rather than being guided by a theology of church and state, I get the sense that what is happening is that a political agenda across a range of issues has been embraced, and then a Reformed Strategy or an Anabaptist strategy is adopted issue by issue based on whatever will be most effective at advancing the preconceived agenda.
    I am all for the “Generous Orthopraxy” you describe but it seems to that the regulating force in that practice is our theology. It seems to me that what has happened with the Left is that the political agenda has become the regulating force ever bit as much as it has for some on the Religious Right.
    I am not looking for a universal pristine set of agenda items but rather a consistent understanding of how to relate to government. This taking a Reformed church state stance when it suites me here and an Anabaptist one when it suits me there strikes me as duplicitous. It is a utilitarian use of theology.
    I fear my remarks are being taken as an anti-Anabaptist critique or a call for a particular political agenda and that is not my intention. For Reformed community, there can agendas that range from left to right but we all agree that we are to try to influence the government with our agenda. Anabaptist can have a wide divergence on how best to offer prophetic witness but they would all stand apart from the government.

  7. Michael
    This is an interesting article and your comments are insightful.
    You hit the nail on the head when you say, “What that says to me is that there is a predefined political agenda in search of theological justifications, not a political stance that has emerged from a consistent theological framework.” The problem is that Christians have rushed into the Political Space, without doing sufficient thinking first. Without a coherent political theology that defines the relationship between church and state, we will be tossed around like straws in the wind. Using political coercion selectively, as you say, is hypocritical and undermines our postion.
    There are some important questions we need to answer right at the start.
    – What is the role of the state in advancing the kingdom of God?
    – What are the limits on the use of coercion by political power?
    – What are the limits on the use of coercively collected taxation?
    Only when we have answered these questions and other related ones will be in a place to get seriously involved with the political space.
    I suggest the choice is not as stark as you portray. We need two different roles as we interact with the political space in the modern world. Both are important.
    1. We need prophetic people challenging the political powers when they miss God’s standards. These people must stand apart from the political space and be black and white in the pronouncements.
    2.We need other Christians to get involved in the political process to try and bring in gradual change for the better. These people will have to be pragmatic and often compromise to achieve their goals.
    These two roles are evident in Jeremiah 36. Jeremiah was the prophetic person declaring God’s standard and Elnathan and Gemeriah were the pragmatic ones working with the King to push him in the right direction. The support each other, rather than criticized, because they understood that they were all called by God.
    In addition, there are two different perspectives we should share.
    1. Christians should articulate a biblically-based, long-term vision of where we hope to be, if the gospel and the Spirit are successful. This vision may be seem utopian from the current perspective, but we need it to inspire hope and provide direction.
    2.We should also confront current issues from a Christian perspective based on a sound political theology. This is essential of we are to remain relevant.
    When Christians speak to political issues, they should be clear about which role and which perspective we are taking.

  8. Thanks for the great feedback Ron. You wrote.
    “I suggest the choice is not as stark as you portray. We need two different roles as we interact with the political space in the modern world. Both are important.
    1. We need prophetic people challenging the political powers when they miss God’s standards. These people must stand apart from the political space and be black and white in the pronouncements.
    2.We need other Christians to get involved in the political process to try and bring in gradual change for the better. These people will have to be pragmatic and often compromise to achieve their goals.”
    I agree with both these roles. I feel like I am being misunderstood here and since that misunderstanding is coming from multiple folks I suspect it is due to my poor communication. I wrote:
    “Either we are fully engaged as Christians with the operations of the state or we separate from the state. Pick one please.”
    With the war in Iraq, some Christians support the effort, believe that it fits the Just War criteria and that it serves the common good. Other Christians believe it was a bad decision, that the United States over stepped its bounds and we should end our involvement there. The first group organizes to support candidates and legislation that prosecute the war. The second group supports candidates and a stages protests to bring about and end to the war. These are actions are BOTH fully engaging the operations of the state. They are using tools of state to accomplish there end.
    But there is another group who believes that ANY military engagement is wrong. The most prevalent argument is that it is unjust to use coercive power. Some would say that the state is the result of a fallen world and we should be a counter-cultural movement apart from the state. The state may have a military but it is the Christians obligation not to participate. Any opposition to war is expressed from outside the political structures rather than from within them. They may dramatically place themselves in the way of the state but they do not seek to redeem the state because the state is not redeemable. There is no point in engaging in the work to form its agendas and policies.
    May “either/or” barb was directed at those who take this latter position (the existence of the state is a consequence of sin and irredeemable) on some issues like the Iraq War but then turnaround and engage the political process (by entering the political arena and advocating/opposing policies and politicians of what they previously said was an irredeemable entity we should be separate from) seeking outcomes that frequently involve the coercive power of the state to levy taxes or restrict freedom by force if necessary.
    My point was that such people (IMO) have not thought through the implications of their actions and are confused in their own minds, or they are simply being duplicitous and using whatever theological tool than can find to support preconceived political agendas.
    You wrote:
    “The problem is that Christians have rushed into the Political Space, without doing sufficient thinking first. Without a coherent political theology that defines the relationship between church and state, we will be tossed around like straws in the wind. Using political coercion selectively, as you say, is hypocritical and undermines our position.”
    Exactly! This was my central point and you seem to have understood me to say this, so I at least take solace that I communicated this aspect well, even if my feeble attempt to drive it home with my “either/or” barb failed. I am unclear what it is that others are hearing may say but it is apparently not what I intended.
    You wrote:
    In addition, there are two different perspectives we should share.
    1. Christians should articulate a biblically-based, long-term vision of where we hope to be, if the gospel and the Spirit are successful. This vision may be seem utopian from the current perspective, but we need it to inspire hope and provide direction.
    2.We should also confront current issues from a Christian perspective based on a sound political theology. This is essential of we are to remain relevant
    AMEN! #1 is something I didn’t touch one here but I think is at the core of our social witness confusion in the Church.
    Thanks again for some great feedback!

  9. Michael
    You do not need to worry, you write really clearly. I understood what you were saying. I was not disagreeing, but adding some more thoughts.
    You are right about the “have your cake and eat it group”. I think it is mostly confusion, rather than duplicity.
    They same lack of clear theological thinking applies to the two groups in disagreement about Iraq. If the just war theory can be used to justify both sides of this issue, then it is not much of a moral compass, or those using it have not really thought it through as a political theology. I think the latter is the case.
    This all suggests that we need a really good debate about if, when and how political coercion and military force can be used. The answer to this basic question will provide the foundation for a sound and relevant political theology.
    Blessings
    Ron

  10. “…but adding some more thoughts.”
    And good thoughts they are. Thanks!

  11. You wrote “I don’t expect for there to be a “biblically balanced” agenda.” I agree that in a fallen world no one has perfect perspective. My point in the post (which I don’t think I have articulated well) is not so much about agenda’s but rather a philosophy or theology of how faith should interact with politics. The Reformed tradition has usually endorsed faith values affecting political debate in the public square and Christians being fully engaged in the political process and institutions. The Anabaptists have eschewed government entanglements and sought to be a separate prophetic witness. These are perspectives that have been lived out with substantial consistency by their adherents. I lean to the Reformed perspective but that is not my central issue.
    there are other alternatives than Anabaptists and Reformed. As I see a “pacifistic” prejudice against war is typically associated with a fear of the military-industrial complex and neo-imperialism(also known as neoconservatism). These things go well beyond the prescribed role of providing for defense and keeping the piece.
    OTOH, redistributive measures are takings but ones that are meant to provide more bargaining power to lower-income types or to restrain the ability of others to exploit them. This fits with the Mandate of the State described by Yoder in “Discipleship as Political Responsibility”, “as consisting of the use of evil means to keep evil from getting out of hand.”
    “Part of what may be driving my reaction is my experience dealing with social witness policy in a mainline denomination like the PCUSA. The Anabaptists I have known reject the use of coercive power to accomplish just ends. Therefore, military service is verboten. Many in mainline leadership are pacifists or sanction military use in such restricted cases they are effectively pacifist. The arguments made are frequently against use of coercive force and read like they came from an Anabaptist manual. Yet when it comes to income inequality or some other economic issue, they have no qualms at all about using the coercive power of the state to accomplish their ends.
    Well, all legal change is “coercive” inasmuch as it alters the interests that will be served by the Sword of the State. The issue really is whether Christians can advance their mandate of overcoming evil with love through participating in legal changes to improve the manner in which the State accomplishes its mandate.
    This may not be the best example, but it gets at the philosophy of the relationship between church and state. Rather than being guided by a theology of church and state, I get the sense that what is happening is that a political agenda across a range of issues has been embraced, and then a Reformed Strategy or an Anabaptist strategy is adopted issue by issue based on whatever will be most effective at advancing the preconceived agenda.
    I think the real issue is the selectivity in how both Anabaptist dualism and the Reform cultural mandate are applied. Such selectivity is seen as inevitable on this side of creation from a fallibilist standpoint…
    I am all for the “Generous Orthopraxy” you describe but it seems to that the regulating force in that practice is our theology. It seems to me that what has happened with the Left is that the political agenda has become the regulating force ever bit as much as it has for some on the Religious Right.
    I think our “theologies” inevitably get speculative and not strictly based on biblical precedent.
    For me, at the end of the day, what matters are whether our habits of political deliberation/action tend to lower or raise barriers to the spread of the Gospel and building of the Church.
    My political theology is “missiological” as understood in the Swedish Baptist Pietist tradition, which doesn’t belong anymore to the free church heritage found among both Anabaptists and Reformed traditons and Barthians.
    I am not looking for a universal pristine set of agenda items but rather a consistent understanding of how to relate to government. This taking a Reformed church state stance when it suites me here and an Anabaptist one when it suits me there strikes me as duplicitous. It is a utilitarian use of theology.
    It is a consequentialist ethical position, which is not per se utilitarian and can be defended from the Bible.
    I fear my remarks are being taken as an anti-Anabaptist critique or a call for a particular political agenda and that is not my intention. For Reformed community, there can agendas that range from left to right but we all agree that we are to try to influence the government with our agenda. Anabaptist can have a wide divergence on how best to offer prophetic witness but they would all stand apart from the government.
    And at the end of the day, I’m a neither of the two above but hey let’s keep dialoguing sort of Christian…
    dlw

  12. “There are other alternatives than Anabaptists and Reformed.”
    True. But since the Reformed one is the right one why should we consider the others? 🙂 Seriously, I understand that there are more than two positions. I was merely limiting it to a contrast of the two in order to make a point not.
    “As I see a “pacifistic” prejudice against war is typically associated with a fear of the military-industrial complex and neo-imperialism (also known as neoconservatism). These things go well beyond the prescribed role of providing for defense and keeping the piece.”
    I’m with ya. Among those who affirm use of force there are gradations and disagreements about how and when to use it. But this to me is a different discussion from “pacifism” as the only prescribed biblical response to violence and threats thereof. IMO, every Christian ethic should have the goal of maximum shalom with a minimum of coercion and violence. But that, to me, is something different than a monolithic commitment to nonviolence and non-coercion alone.
    “Well, all legal change is “coercive” inasmuch as it alters the interests that will be served by the Sword of the State.”
    Yes and that is precisely my point to the absolutist pacifists I encounter in the circles I run in. They oppose ALL military action based on a biblical mandate for nonviolence and then in endorse this kind of coercion. Again, they are not objecting on the basis of a fear of neo-imperialism and disagreement about the objective. They are objecting based on historical pacifist teaching of non-violence.
    Thanks for the good feedback. Our conversation is giving me inspiration for a blog post.

  13. The Deformed Church has been predestined to greatness ever since the Council of Dordt… 😉
    “every Christian ethic should have the goal of maximum shalom with a minimum of coercion and violence. ”
    I focus on 1 Timothy 1:3-6.
    I think all Christian speculative reasoning shd have as a goal of furthering the administration of God which is by faith, while avoiding fruitless discussion.
    dlw

  14. Yeah, the absolutist position gets back at the issue of dualism and whether Christians can serve in the administration and error-correction of the Sword of the State.
    I think the anabaptist position is well understood in light of their historical underpinnings, but is not biblically or theologically defensible, though there are variants of it which are very much worthy of dialogue.
    dlw
    ps, when you gonna link to my blog?
    dlw

  15. Hmmm… Could have sworn I did that already. You should be there now. Do you prefer not to have you name identified with your blog?

  16. I generally prefer that.
    dlw

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