“A climate skeptic’s guest post” at Backseat Driving

Backseat Driving (Brian Schmidt): A climate skeptic's guest post: Why David Evans bet against Brian Schmidt over global warming. Interesting post by David Evans who worked for a few years in climate modeling.

I devoted six years to carbon accounting, building models for the Australian government to estimate carbon emissions from land use change and forestry (Google on "FullCAM"). When I started that job in 1999 the evidence that carbon emissions caused global warming seemed pretty conclusive, but since then new evidence has weakened the case that carbon emissions are the main cause. I am now skeptical. As Lord Keynes famously said, "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?"

In the late 1990's the evidence suggesting that carbon emissions caused global warming was basically:

1. Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. Proved in a laboratory a century ago.

2. Global warming has been occurring for a century, especially since 1975, and concentrations of atmospheric carbon have been rising for a century, especially since 1975. Correlation is not causation, but in a rough sense it looked like a fit.

3. Ice core data, starting with the first cores from Vostok in 1985, allowed us to measure temperature and atmospheric carbon going back hundreds of thousands of years, through several dramatic global warming and cooling events. To the temporal resolution then available (data points were generally more than a thousand years apart), atmospheric carbon and temperature moved in lock-step: there was an extremely high correlation, they rose and fell together. Talk about a smoking gun!

4. There weren't any other credible suspects for causing global warming. So presumably it had to be carbon emissions.

This evidence was good enough: not conclusive, but why wait until we are absolutely certain when we apparently need to act now? So the idea that carbon emissions were causing global warming passed from the scientific community into the political realm, and actions started to happen. Research increased, bureaucracies were formed, international committees met, and eventually the Kyoto protocol was signed in 1997 — with the aim of curbing carbon emissions.

And the political realm in turn fed money back into the scientific community. By the late 1990's, lots of jobs depended on the idea that carbon emissions caused global warming. Many of them were bureaucratic, but there were a lot of science jobs created too. I was on that gravy train, making a high wage in a science job that would not have existed if we didn't believe carbon emissions caused global warming. And so were lots of people around me; and there were international conferences full of such people. And we had political support, the ear of government, big budgets, and we felt fairly important and useful (well, I did anyway). It was great. We were working to save the planet!

But starting in about 2000, the last three of the four pieces of evidence outlined above fell away or reversed. Using the same point numbers as above: …


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2 responses to ““A climate skeptic’s guest post” at Backseat Driving”

  1. Thanks for this, Michael.
    David wrote:
    in light of the weakening evidence [for global warming being caused by CO2 emissions] I judge that probability to be about 20% rather than almost 90% as estimated by the IPCC.
    I can understand that the somewhat weakening evidence might reduce the probability rather below 90%. But down to 20%? Surely not! After all, his evidence point 1 still stands, that CO2 is known to cause the greenhouse effect. The fit in point 2 is not perfect, but “global dimming” provides a tentative explanation of the lack of fit without providing an explanation of the observed warming. And point 4, possible warming caused by cosmic rays, he admits “investigation of this cause is still in its infancy”, so there is still no credible alternative explanation. My bet, if I wasn’t opposed on principle to betting, would still be that there will be real global warming over the next 20 years.

  2. “After all, his evidence point 1 still stands, that CO2 is known to cause the greenhouse effect.”
    I still keep coming back to the science of it. CO2 is a natural part of the atmosphere. Yes, we know it plays a role in the greenhouse gas effect. Yes, it is plausible that human additions to CO2 levels have an impact. But how and how much? Human CO2 is a small fraction of the total greenhouse gas effect. The observations (ex. differences in surface and atmospheric changes) don’t correspond to the greenhouse theory.
    It is plausible that CO2 is in some measure causing the temperature to rise, just like it would have been plausible for Aristotle to conclude that the heavier of two objects will hit the ground first if dropped from the same height. 🙂 The difference between science and thought experiments is empirical testing and the construction of paradigms. The anomalies with CO2 caused warming theory are not insignificant. And, yes, it is true that the cosmic ray stuff is in its infancy, but so is climatology.
    Again, my take is that we need to study what is happening and act prudently. But premature decisions can have enormously costly consequences. I will also add again that much of this is driven by a huge assumption that we are leaving a more optimal climate for a less optimal one, or that there even is such a thing as an optimal climate.
    “My bet, if I wasn’t opposed on principle to betting,…”
    Doesn’t sound like Las Vegas will be making much off of either of us! 🙂 If I were to bet, I would guess that we will be cooler in 20 years (mostly because of ocean current cycles) but that doesn’t mean we couldn’t end up at a higher temp by century end. Climate changes. 🙂
    I should also add that what Evans says here is precisely the kind of stuff I hear from the scientists who I know and interact with and the was one of the reasons I was drawn to this post.

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