Why Don’t Theologians & Economists Get Along?: Evolution, Economics, & Theologians

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Why don't theologians (particularly Mainline*) and economists get along? This has intrigued me for years. I'm still not sure I have the answer, but recently I've had some insights I want to process out loud with you through this blog.

I believe economists are partly responsible for the problem. Attitudes stemming from the discipline's origins in Nineteenth-Century positivism are an issue. Theologians are also responsible. Christian ethics of the past have been constrained to micro-level transactions of individuals and families in their daily routines. Over the last couple of centuries, the discovery of how large human systems operate and the challenges this presents to Christian ethics has not been appreciated.

If you've ever been to a therapist, you know one of the questions they ask frequently is, "Does this feel familiar?" Reflecting on the divide between theologians and economists, I recently discovered that this indeed feels familiar.

My father was a scientist. I was around scientists all through my childhood. I have several friends who are in various scientific fields. Yet I've also been in reasonably theologically conservative (by Mainline standards) environments most of my life. The question of evolution often emerges. I am a theistic evolutionist. I'm more persuaded than ever by the position. As you can imagine, that tends to generate some "interesting" discussions. My conversation and interaction with Mainline theologians (and I include in this the pastors and scholars they produce) on economics are eerily like talking to conservatives about evolution.

Let me demonstrate some key themes. I suspect you know what I mean by evolution. By economics, I'm referring to the widely held affirmation by most economists of the importance of supply and demand, price theory of value, free markets, and capitalism as the optimal economic system (though there is considerable variance on the implications of these issues that goes unnoticed by critics; more on that later.) I realize the following greatly oversimplifies, but I think it will help highlight the patterns I see.

Anti-Christian

Conservative Theology and Evolution – "Evolution undermines the plain teaching of Scripture that God created the world in seven literal days. It thereby undermines the authority of all Scripture. It substitutes forces of blind chance for God's providence. It is deeply grounded in Modernists aims of autonomy from God." Evolutionists are Godless atheists.

Mainline Theology and Economics – "Economics undermines the core ethical teaching of Scripture about God's love and justice. It strikes at the heart of the Kingdom of God. It substitutes unbridled markets (greed and selfishness) and an "invisible hand" for God's love and justice. It is deeply grounded in Modernist aims of autonomy from God." Economists are theocapitalists.

It's Just Ideology

Conservative Theologians and Evolution – "Evolutionism is a hopelessly anti-Christian ideology (materialism). There is no need to become seriously acquainted with the knowledge that underlies the positions."

Mainline Theologians and Economics – "Economics is a hopelessly anti-Christian ideology (Social Darwinism). There is no need to become seriously acquainted with the knowledge that underlies the positions."

Spotlight the Fringe

Conservative Theologians and Evolution – Frequently lifts the most obnoxious or controversial evolutionists who have portrayed their metaphysical materialism as science, making them the poster child for the position. (ex. Richard Dawkins)

Mainline Theologians and Economics – Frequently lifts the most obnoxious or controversial economic thinker who has portrayed greed and selfishness as the basis of market capitalism and makes them the poster child for the position. (ex. Ayn Rand)

Identity Marker

Conservative Theologians and Evolution –Belief in evolution symbolizes the liberal church's departure from the historic faith. Being anti-evolution is an identity marker distinguishing oneself from liberalism.

Mainline Theologians and Economics – Belief in market economics is viewed as symbolic of the conservative church's departure from the mission of God's Kingdom. Being anti-market economics is an identity marker distinguishing oneself from conservatives.

What is interesting is that conservative theological types do not generally seem to have serious qualms about mainstream economics. I suspect this may be due to the focus of economics on large social structures while much of conservative Christianity is absorbed with the individual Christian life. Economics doesn't seem to directly threaten the authority of Scripture or the challenge of "winning souls for Christ." On the other hand, evolution directly threatens what they see as the mission of God.

Conversely, Mainline theological types do not seem to have serious qualms about evolution. It poses no particular challenge to their nonscientific and ahistorical reading of key Scripture passages. It has nothing directly to say to the establishment of God's Kingdom of love and justice. On the other hand, economics directly threatens what they see as the mission of God.

So as I move into this series, my central focus is on theologians and pastors who hail from the Mainline theological milieu, though I know this applies to hosts within various Evangelical environments. I believe that just as theological patterns of the past and misconceptions about science have hampered conservative theologians from coming to grips with science over the past couple of centuries, so have theological patterns of the past and misconceptions about economics severely hampered Mainline theologians in coming to grips with economics over the same time frame.

Can I capture the essence of what divides theologians and economists? I don't know. But maybe with a bit of help from my blog reader friends, we can learn more.

(* By "Mainline," I'm referring to the longstanding denominations that mostly reached their heyday in the 1950s and have identified with the National Council of Churches community, like United Methodist, ELCA, PCUSA, Episcopal, American Baptist, UCC, Christian Church. Social teachings of the Roman Catholic Church will also be included in my discussion.)

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12 responses to “Why Don’t Theologians & Economists Get Along?: Evolution, Economics, & Theologians”

  1. I’ve often thought the same kind of obscurantism that fundamentalists fall into regarding the question of origins rears its ugly head when mainline and emerging pastors and theologians discuss economics. The same person who would be shocked at the unscientific approach of the creationist has never taken time to understand even the rudimentary lessons of the modern science of economics.
    Looking forward to your series!!

  2. Rick McGinniss Avatar
    Rick McGinniss

    Michael,
    I just finished reading”Money, Greed & God.” I can’t believe how many lines per page are now highlighted in yellow or pink. Not having been trained in economics (my background before seminary was Math and Computer Science), I was astounded at the inherent (divine?) wisdom of the free-market system. Rodney Stark’s “How the West Was Won” is next on my list and I suspect I will come to a similar conclusion. Plus I keep reading this blog which also prods me in the same direction. 🙂
    However, a question keeps nagging at me that perhaps you will address in this series:
    So what?
    Not “so what” in the sense of “what economic policies seem to have the greatest chance of producing the greatest good and allowing the greatest number of people to experience more of the biblical vision of shalom?” but “what does this mean to a pastor of a local church? What am I to do with this kind of information as it pertains to my congregation?”
    At this point, it makes for a lot of very interesting conversation with my family, staff and a few skeptics, but as to the practical day-to-day value in the life of people in my congregation, I’m having trouble connecting the dots. (I think I see an application at a denominational level, where I assume part of the task is to speak in a prophetic voice to “the powers” and influence public policy.)
    About the best I can come up with is “change people’s worldview about economic issues so they don’t fall for the ineffectiveness of socialism or any other -ism.” The most obvious practical individual application of that seems to be “how people vote” but is there more? I think I see some relationship to how people look at work, too, but that could come off as “take your place as a cog in the machinery that produces wealth.”
    I hope this post doesn’t sound smart-alecky or like I am asking you to change the direction of your series. I’m just a little perplexed over what to do with all of this (beyond shaking my head at the current direction of economic policy in our country).
    Thanks

  3. Crimanitlies! Those pesky pastors always thinking there should be something practical in all this. 🙂
    Seriously, your concern is a legitimate one. As I come to the end of this series I expect to get to some practical application pieces.
    For now I’ll say that I think the most critical thing is that it gives us a lens that shapes the way we see ourselves and our work … sometimes in ways so subtle it may not be apparent to us. The challenge is to get a handle on the lens but also to be cognizant of other lens we frequently encounter that distort our vision and avoid them.
    When we come to see ourselves as co-regents with God over creation it forms us spiritually … we come to see our daily labors as part of God’s mission in the world. We also come to see the importance of the work others do and it shapes how we minister to them.
    More later.

  4. As an economist and a Christian, I have thought and read on the subject. I am also working on a long-term project on why theologians don’t like markets. One part of the work was published in the JOURNAL OF RELIGIOUS ETHICS in the December 2007 issue. (Co-authored with Peter J. Hill of Wheaton College.)
    It is also the case that many theologians don’t like markets and don’t like modern economics. As noted in the original post above, economics came out of the Enlightenment and everything about the Enlightenment is suspect in our post-modern age. Also, economics is too individualistic, too narrow, and so on. I have been working on a second article and a book-length treatment, but the current economic and financial crisis has diverted me. I plan on returning to the theologians/economics question in another year or so. Hopefully the crisis will be over by then but I doubt theologians will have accepted markets by then.

  5. John, I neither an economist nor a theologian. Just someone who sees the need for us to have good economic lens through which to view the world as we live our Christian discipleship. I’m certain I’m wading in way over my head.
    Thanks for the heads up on your article! I’ll drop by a local seminary on Monday and check it out. It sounds like it is directly addressing my concerns. I look forward to learning more about your work on the topic.

  6. Rev. Edwin Bernard Avatar
    Rev. Edwin Bernard

    A question a friend recently asked…
    Q: Why did God create economist?
    A: To make weather forecasters look good.

  7. Rev. Edwin Bernard Avatar
    Rev. Edwin Bernard

    As a retired CPA and retired pastor I appreciate your insights. A lot of food for thought here. Thanks for your thoughts.

  8. “A: To make weather forecasters look good.”
    But how can you say that when economists have correctly predicted 9 of the last 5 recessions? 🙂
    Thanks.

  9. In think the commenter above who connected the divide between economists and theologians to the postmodern critique of the Enlightenment is on to something.
    I would add, though, that there is an earlier challenge to modern Western economics as well–namely, the radical ecclesiology of the New Testament. How does a Christian theologian square the economic practices described in the book of Acts with contemporary capitalism and consumerism?

  10. Josh, you are anticipating where this series is going. I’ll get to that.

  11. amarsay@mweb.co.za Avatar
    amarsay@mweb.co.za

    I am an economist and theologian (Reformed evangelical) and get on with myself quite well thanks!
    ‘Austrian’ economics – when not applied ad absurdum – is reasonably consistent with much in conservative theology.
    And wasn’t economics’ original name ‘ moral philosophy’?
    I have to think theologically every day in my (main) profession which is the application of economic principles to infrastructure investment prioritisation.
    Andrew Marsay, Johannesburg, South Africa

  12. “I am an economist and theologian (Reformed evangelical) and get on with myself quite well thanks!”
    LOL. You are not alone. We just need more of you available to the general public. 🙂

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